Monday, April 16, 2007

School Violence

Today it was at Virginia Tech. "It" refers to random acts of violence with firearms on school campuses. "It" is also one of the primary high-profile acts that leads many in the general public to advocate curtailing 2nd Amendment rights. "It" is unfortunately also a regular feature of American life.

Everybody who reads this blog knows the arguments for and against gun control--let's not waste time rehashing that.

But does anyone have solutions to offer for "it" that don't involve taking away civil liberties? As proponents of the 2nd Amendment, it is in our best interest to find and promote those solutions.

Any ideas? Please discuss.


Anonymous said...

This is a terrible tragedy, and no doubt people will blame guns for it. But, some people do have suggested solutions. Those are about helping people deal with and express anger in a way that doesn't kill people, as well as helping people get control over their lives.

See Marshall Rosenberg's work on non-violent communication (NVC) and more recently Ari Cowen's work with the "Violence Integrative Prevention and Restoration (PAR) model." Before you pass judgment, see what he has been able to achieve in an extremely violent maximum security prison (

I think this kind of work is on the forefront of where we need to go if we are going to survive as a race. It is not about "being a wussy" or letting people walk over you. It is about learning the self confidence and skills to express yourself without hurting other people, and to help people regain feelings of control over their life.

C. Michael Arnold said...

Virginia Tech apparently had a gun ban too: . Unfortunately, students with concealed carry permits face discipline if they carry on campus.

- Mike Arnold, Creswell/Eugene, Oregon

Anonymous said...

The shooter, in this case, was a Korean national; why did he have access to firearms? Did he get them through a gun show? Maybe through a dealer that would allow a sale without a background check (which is, of course, illegal)? Also, how did he get so many shots off? Did he have a larger clip than is standard for a 9mm? Is this a piece of hardware that was, at one time, banned from sale in the US?

Answer me these questions, which will likely take some time due to the scope of this event, and then tell me whether or not we should control firearms to allow only leagl residents of the United States to carry firearms. The average citizen has the right to bear arms, not criminals and not foreign residents with work/school visas, and most certainly not undocumented aliens.

Jason McKerr said...


The student was a legal, resident alien, and could therefore purchase a firearm through the normal route, although he may have been required to show proof of 90 day residency.


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Definestro said...

More info from when a similar thing happened in Virginia back in 2002.
In this case students with concealed carry permits were responsible for stopping the shooter before he could get too far. Unfortunately, the gun ban stayed in effect on school campuses.

Anonymous said...

OK, so new facts have come out that show he was a legal resident and thus, in my opinion, legal to obtain a firearm, at least in the residency sense.

This guy has stalked two women and neither pressed charges. Fine. Why can't something like this go onto one's record? Maybe that was a signal to keep a gun out of this guy's hands. Technically, he didn't break any laws until the shooting but it could've been prevented if the guns were kept out of his hands.

Zak J. said...

Collecting my newspaper this morning I have to conclude that the media has reached a new low by actually publishing the pictures and video this sick young man recorded of himself brandishing weapons like the anti-hero in some kind of movie.

I don't usually jump on that band-wagon of media bashing but in this case, publishing those photos has given him the exact fame and notoriety he was seeking--and it sets an example to other delusional people on exactly how to get their 15 minutes of (posthumous) fame.

There is a well-known anniversary coming up this week, and given the cult-hero status the media is building up around this latest massacre, I greatly fear copy-cats.

This glorification of a murdering A-hole is shameful and sickening, and clearly exposes the lack of decency and restraint we are suffering from as a society. I'm not sure which outrage disgusts me more--the act of a lunatic or exploitation of a tragedy to sell ad space. Shame on them all.